Its a very well analyzed and factual article.. Thumbs up for you Javed Sahib..
Dr Ijaz Akhtar
جناب چودھری صاحب غالب نے کہا تھا
ہر چند ہو مشاہدہء حق کی گفتگو
بنتی نہیں ہے بادہ وساغر کہے بغیر
تو جناب جیسے مر ضی تجزیہ کیا جائے بات یہی نکلے گی کہ مشرف دور پاکستان کی تاریخ کا بہترین دور تھا ۔ اور آپ نے ڈکٹیٹر والی بات بھی واضع کردی کہ جب جناب پرویز مشرف صاحب نے قوم ملت کی بھلائی کے لیے دنیا کے بہترین دماغ اکٹھے کیے اور ان کی مشاورت اور راہنمائی میں وہ حکومت کے ہر شعبے کوبحید مضبوط بنانے میں کامیاب رہے اور ملک وقوم کو ترقی اور خوشحالی کی راہ پرکامیابی سے گامزن کیا اور اسکا فائدہ غریب عوام کو پہنچا اور ملک ہر لحاظ سے مضبوط ہوا اور پاکستان نے اپنے گزشتہ ساٹھ برس سے زیادہ ترقی صرف مشرف دور میں کی توپھر سلام ہے پرویز مشرف پر اور ان کے ساتھیوں پر۔
chaudharyiqbal
excellent and impartial analysis
qazi asad
sir aj to ap nay kisi ki bat sunai inshaallah ik waqt ap khod mushraf ko acha kahin gay
Ovais Omer
Superb Analysis, Jawed Bhai Tussi great ho..
I personally beleive that our Democratic Leadership DOES NOT want to Learn from PAST..Otherwise they can..!!
karam khan swati (from swat)
javed chohdri shahab aap mashallah buht accha likty hai aur haqeqat pe mabni hota hai leken Allah pak hamary hukamrano ko amal karny ki taufeeq dy. aur Allah aap ko hamesha es tarah likny ki tiufeeq dy (ameen)
Abdul Rauf
Sallam, Cohdry sahib, Congrats for this great analysis but I disagree with your conclusion because you have overlooked some basic issues of democracy system i-e this system opens doors for corruption and allow powerful minority to exploit rights of weak masses also in this system some groups behave as pressure group to mould decisions of govt. in their own favor therefore in my opinion after 63 years of different experiments of democracy and dictatorship now people of Pakistan have learned their lesson and now we need only Islamic Sharia System i-e: “Khilafa” for which this country Pakistan was made. As “Khilafa” system is not a dictatorship and do not have backdoors same as democracy therefore only “Khilafa” system can ensure selection of qualified and honest leadership for good governs without fear of any corruption and terrorism and development of country with good relationships with other countries of the world.
Sir I hope you will understand this issue and very soon you will write some thing upon this topic also.
Best regards,
Abdul Rauf
Jawad Aslam
AOA App thik farma rahay hain but i think ager polling system yah hi raha to aisa hi hota rahay ga .I think kay yahan saddarti tarriqa inttikhab hona chahya takay hummay pata ho kay humara saddar koon banay ga kioon kay hum to us MNA ko vote detain hain jo hummari sarrak banata hay thanna ka kaam ker kay deta hay .One more thing kay sanete ki seats kissi bhi pary kay hasil kia gay votes per di jain na kay hasil ki gai seats per.Kindly comment on it I be thankful to u
Mujahid Ali
i believe from the beginning of Pakistan till 1947 there was only a single leader Our Quid Muhammad Ali Jinnah after that all of them even Mr Bhutto or BB or Mian Brothers all are the blunders and “looteray”.
pray for a leader and don’t think about any single person you think is a leader none of these parties including PTI.
Zeeshan Chaudhry
good analysis, is qaum ko Khuda ka to khof to raha nahi aur sache aur imandaar log inko pasand nahi kyun ke inko pata hai ke aik imandar aur asoolon ka pakka shaks aageya to inka ghatya karobaar band ho jaye ga. sirf dictator ke boot ki awaz se darte hain kyunke dictator inko khud saza deta hai aur inki sunta nahi.
We want people with great vision and dignity and knowledge like Imran Khan, Shehzad Roy, Marvi Memon…
u r right, Ijaz bhai,
Musharaf jub ta tu koi ungli tak nahi othata ta oss ka khalaf.. or aj jub wo nahi tu sub bolta han,,,,
ap ki dosri parties kia kar rahi ha? MLN tu apna mafad ka lya Sarko par ati hai… unha kia gareeb peesta raha, or PPPP tu bus
That is what I have been crying against. The parliamentry form of government has totally failed in pakistan. Rich people on account of their wealth become member of parliament, then they want it returned with interest whatever they have invested. In presidential form the president is directly responsible to the people that is why he select a best team to run the government. He does not have to be liable to the parliament.
Javed chaudhary iz ma fav columnist en anchor…
but he shud keep in mind dat..
“WORSE FERM OV DEMOCRACY IZ BETTER DN BEST KIND OV DICTATORSHIP”…
en Pervez musharraf waz a swine…
every patriot pakistani hates hm wd da deepness ov hz heart…
M.F Musharrf…
@Tahir: It is easy to understand that always PEOPLE BRING REVOLUTION SO PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN WILL BRING CHANGE INTO CURRENT SYSTEM AND THEY WILL ESTABLISH “KHILAFA” – INSHAALLAH.
Aap sahi keh rahe hain. 5 ghaltian aur sab se barh kar kursi se chimat kar rehne ki khwahish ne musharraf ko tabah kia..
us ke paas sab se acchha moqa tha jis ka us ne sirf 10% advantage liya agar woh is ka poori tarah faaida uthaata aur ek sahi system bana deta, saari zindagi president banne ki khwahish na rakhta to hum aaj ye din nahin dekh rahe hote.
I don’t have funds to finance my own election campaign, so on behalf of me(awam) People like Zardari force to represent my voice… Though I know how corrupt and ill their background is. As a dignified and honest person, a Pakistani can’t earn even enough to put posters and flags for one region to contest, but yet democracy is forced to be my sign of hope…. democracy is not even from Quran and Sunnah, but yet its forced ethical way approved from west for me.
Anyhow, how much investment does an election campaign require, I can’t ever earn that money even if I combine salaries of my whole family…. but yet democracy is in hope to find an honest dignified rich man who have Crores…. so democracy is forcefully my hope from rich man.
More over, its not a single human who forms the govt. so I need majority to represent my voice, keeping in mind that I don’t have money to contest from even single region because I don’t have Crores … so PPP, PML N etc forcefully represent my voice with their hidden Crores on campaign and yet show me their poor bank balance… and then people force me to believe democracy is the right way; because I am supposed to wait for honest group of majority rich people who will have tons of combined Crores and will to serve….
Now I want to believe in most idealistic way, when will I have that promised democracy in my country.
1) When multi billionaire richest people will turn into dignified human beings
2) When at least 2/3 majority seats of PK will have richest dignified people.
3) When will this happen, when Awam of Pakistan (villager and city people) will select them by looking into that groups heart for their dignity.
4) When villagers will become more literate than learned of cities of today, because I need majority.
5) When those richest dignified people will have one heart and form one group and this is very very rare because even dignified people like Imam Safaee and Imam Abu Hanifah differed at certain issues…. but lets consider it happens that those dignified people find each other exactly equal in logics.
6) When free and fair elections will be conducted
7) When army chief will not dismiss them.
8) When those rich group of people will not face resistance and pressure from US (i.e., killing, cheating etc)
9) When those angels like rich people (at least 2/3 of seats) will understand how to do politics after earning enough money…
10) Then someone could say yes, there is a chance that democracy will liberate us.
Now I wonder, if we have such kind of people… then who needs democracy…. why not go for best system…. i.e., Caliphate….
Enough, I can’t find any logic in democracy.
Moreover why should we drum about… O democracy will one day solve our problem, …. Sir with due respect… democracy is a type of business where businessmen come and invest…. like Zardari … definitely if someone has invested in Crores then why should not he expect a return? Lets be little logical here… Why would Richest people invest Crores for free (i.e., no return)… in fact in return they will do service for country (its like a joke for me if we expect this)…. I absolutely find no logic in such claim.
SALAM guys…musharraf waz gd leader but he commented wrong doing as he can bcouz he iz also human…..thn i think all will b fine if there will be bloody INQILAAB against system and against all these political parties…. we take pakistan in the name of ISLAM…and we prayed to ALLAH that we will make it true islamic state to show world dat dis iz ISLAM…that’s y we got that state and this waz not less than any miracle…..but after that we forget that promise to ALLAH…..then there iz AZAB for these kind of nations….there r three kinds of azaabs for such type of nation……1 is from sky….2 iz fm earth as earthquakes and 3..the most serious iz nafaq…which means all peoples of nation are divided in some groups and they fight against each other……..this all i m telling according to quran……and we r now in condition 3 of azab…….we have to say sorry to ALLAH and we have to change all this system….only islamic system…as JInnah and iqbal wanted…….any comments are most welcomed……..take care and just pray…ALLAH HAFIZ
Riaz
Asslam O Alikum
May Musharaf Sahib say tamam tr nafrat kay bawajood onki ek term grass root level say mutafiq hon, masla hukumrano ka nahi awam ka hay, hr shakhs apni zaat ko qanoon say mubara or baki sb ko paband daikna chahta hay, or jb tk halat ki aag say hmm awam pk kr kundan nahi banay gay. hukumran hamaray esay hi hon gay. kionkay wo hm may si hotay hain.
wasalam
مجھے اس منطق سے اتفاق نہیں۔ پاکستان فوجی ادوار میں خوشحال ضرور رہا لیکن اسکی وجہ بیرونی امداد تھی۔ ایوب، ضیا، مشرف تینوں کو قسمت سے ایسے حالات ملے جن میں انھین مغربی دنیا کی بے تحاشا مدد ملی۔ اس میں انکا کوئی کمال نہیں تھا۔
Dr.Ishtiaq ahmad
a.a. mjhe khushi hai k koi aur bhi mera tarha soochta hai is ka kash hamarey hukamrano ko ALLAH hadayat de AMEEN. aur wo bhe awam ka khayal karain
rana
Great site. A lot of useful information here. I’m sending it to some friends!
Imran khan ustrana
Javed bhai aap k kalum parh kr hosla milta he sirf mujhe nahi balka har woh shakhs jo aap ko parhta he ALLAH ap ko salamat rakhe with all Muslims.
Imran khan ustrana
Asalam o alikum dosto Ye mul k hamara he aur is ko hm ne sanwarna he america ya koi aur a kr nahi sanware ga Pakistan ko mehnati aur emandar logon ki zarorat he aap Ye mat sochien k aur log to behti ganga men hath dho rahe hen aur men mehroom hon balka apne hissay ki zima dari ko batareeq.e. Ahsan ada krien aur dosroon ko bhi is ka ahsas dilain agar hm dosroon ko is se baaz na rakh sakien to kam se kam apne aap par to lago kr sakte hen Pakistan zinda baad wasalam.
Its a very well analyzed and factual article.. Thumbs up for you Javed Sahib..
جناب چودھری صاحب غالب نے کہا تھا
ہر چند ہو مشاہدہء حق کی گفتگو
بنتی نہیں ہے بادہ وساغر کہے بغیر
تو جناب جیسے مر ضی تجزیہ کیا جائے بات یہی نکلے گی کہ مشرف دور پاکستان کی تاریخ کا بہترین دور تھا ۔ اور آپ نے ڈکٹیٹر والی بات بھی واضع کردی کہ جب جناب پرویز مشرف صاحب نے قوم ملت کی بھلائی کے لیے دنیا کے بہترین دماغ اکٹھے کیے اور ان کی مشاورت اور راہنمائی میں وہ حکومت کے ہر شعبے کوبحید مضبوط بنانے میں کامیاب رہے اور ملک وقوم کو ترقی اور خوشحالی کی راہ پرکامیابی سے گامزن کیا اور اسکا فائدہ غریب عوام کو پہنچا اور ملک ہر لحاظ سے مضبوط ہوا اور پاکستان نے اپنے گزشتہ ساٹھ برس سے زیادہ ترقی صرف مشرف دور میں کی توپھر سلام ہے پرویز مشرف پر اور ان کے ساتھیوں پر۔
excellent and impartial analysis
sir aj to ap nay kisi ki bat sunai inshaallah ik waqt ap khod mushraf ko acha kahin gay
Superb Analysis, Jawed Bhai Tussi great ho..
I personally beleive that our Democratic Leadership DOES NOT want to Learn from PAST..Otherwise they can..!!
javed chohdri shahab aap mashallah buht accha likty hai aur haqeqat pe mabni hota hai leken Allah pak hamary hukamrano ko amal karny ki taufeeq dy. aur Allah aap ko hamesha es tarah likny ki tiufeeq dy (ameen)
Sallam, Cohdry sahib, Congrats for this great analysis but I disagree with your conclusion because you have overlooked some basic issues of democracy system i-e this system opens doors for corruption and allow powerful minority to exploit rights of weak masses also in this system some groups behave as pressure group to mould decisions of govt. in their own favor therefore in my opinion after 63 years of different experiments of democracy and dictatorship now people of Pakistan have learned their lesson and now we need only Islamic Sharia System i-e: “Khilafa” for which this country Pakistan was made. As “Khilafa” system is not a dictatorship and do not have backdoors same as democracy therefore only “Khilafa” system can ensure selection of qualified and honest leadership for good governs without fear of any corruption and terrorism and development of country with good relationships with other countries of the world.
Sir I hope you will understand this issue and very soon you will write some thing upon this topic also.
Best regards,
Abdul Rauf
AOA App thik farma rahay hain but i think ager polling system yah hi raha to aisa hi hota rahay ga .I think kay yahan saddarti tarriqa inttikhab hona chahya takay hummay pata ho kay humara saddar koon banay ga kioon kay hum to us MNA ko vote detain hain jo hummari sarrak banata hay thanna ka kaam ker kay deta hay .One more thing kay sanete ki seats kissi bhi pary kay hasil kia gay votes per di jain na kay hasil ki gai seats per.Kindly comment on it I be thankful to u
i believe from the beginning of Pakistan till 1947 there was only a single leader Our Quid Muhammad Ali Jinnah after that all of them even Mr Bhutto or BB or Mian Brothers all are the blunders and “looteray”.
pray for a leader and don’t think about any single person you think is a leader none of these parties including PTI.
good analysis, is qaum ko Khuda ka to khof to raha nahi aur sache aur imandaar log inko pasand nahi kyun ke inko pata hai ke aik imandar aur asoolon ka pakka shaks aageya to inka ghatya karobaar band ho jaye ga. sirf dictator ke boot ki awaz se darte hain kyunke dictator inko khud saza deta hai aur inki sunta nahi.
We want people with great vision and dignity and knowledge like Imran Khan, Shehzad Roy, Marvi Memon…
u r right, Ijaz bhai,
Musharaf jub ta tu koi ungli tak nahi othata ta oss ka khalaf.. or aj jub wo nahi tu sub bolta han,,,,
ap ki dosri parties kia kar rahi ha? MLN tu apna mafad ka lya Sarko par ati hai… unha kia gareeb peesta raha, or PPPP tu bus
That is what I have been crying against. The parliamentry form of government has totally failed in pakistan. Rich people on account of their wealth become member of parliament, then they want it returned with interest whatever they have invested. In presidential form the president is directly responsible to the people that is why he select a best team to run the government. He does not have to be liable to the parliament.
Javed chaudhary iz ma fav columnist en anchor…
but he shud keep in mind dat..
“WORSE FERM OV DEMOCRACY IZ BETTER DN BEST KIND OV DICTATORSHIP”…
en Pervez musharraf waz a swine…
every patriot pakistani hates hm wd da deepness ov hz heart…
M.F Musharrf…
WAOW!!!
NICE CMNT Abdul Rauf!!
“KHILAFAH” IZ DA BEST SYSTM OV GOV…
But who can implement it???
ds m.f establishmnt???…
@Tahir: It is easy to understand that always PEOPLE BRING REVOLUTION SO PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN WILL BRING CHANGE INTO CURRENT SYSTEM AND THEY WILL ESTABLISH “KHILAFA” – INSHAALLAH.
Aap sahi keh rahe hain. 5 ghaltian aur sab se barh kar kursi se chimat kar rehne ki khwahish ne musharraf ko tabah kia..
us ke paas sab se acchha moqa tha jis ka us ne sirf 10% advantage liya agar woh is ka poori tarah faaida uthaata aur ek sahi system bana deta, saari zindagi president banne ki khwahish na rakhta to hum aaj ye din nahin dekh rahe hote.
I don’t have funds to finance my own election campaign, so on behalf of me(awam) People like Zardari force to represent my voice… Though I know how corrupt and ill their background is. As a dignified and honest person, a Pakistani can’t earn even enough to put posters and flags for one region to contest, but yet democracy is forced to be my sign of hope…. democracy is not even from Quran and Sunnah, but yet its forced ethical way approved from west for me.
Anyhow, how much investment does an election campaign require, I can’t ever earn that money even if I combine salaries of my whole family…. but yet democracy is in hope to find an honest dignified rich man who have Crores…. so democracy is forcefully my hope from rich man.
More over, its not a single human who forms the govt. so I need majority to represent my voice, keeping in mind that I don’t have money to contest from even single region because I don’t have Crores … so PPP, PML N etc forcefully represent my voice with their hidden Crores on campaign and yet show me their poor bank balance… and then people force me to believe democracy is the right way; because I am supposed to wait for honest group of majority rich people who will have tons of combined Crores and will to serve….
Now I want to believe in most idealistic way, when will I have that promised democracy in my country.
1) When multi billionaire richest people will turn into dignified human beings
2) When at least 2/3 majority seats of PK will have richest dignified people.
3) When will this happen, when Awam of Pakistan (villager and city people) will select them by looking into that groups heart for their dignity.
4) When villagers will become more literate than learned of cities of today, because I need majority.
5) When those richest dignified people will have one heart and form one group and this is very very rare because even dignified people like Imam Safaee and Imam Abu Hanifah differed at certain issues…. but lets consider it happens that those dignified people find each other exactly equal in logics.
6) When free and fair elections will be conducted
7) When army chief will not dismiss them.
8) When those rich group of people will not face resistance and pressure from US (i.e., killing, cheating etc)
9) When those angels like rich people (at least 2/3 of seats) will understand how to do politics after earning enough money…
10) Then someone could say yes, there is a chance that democracy will liberate us.
Now I wonder, if we have such kind of people… then who needs democracy…. why not go for best system…. i.e., Caliphate….
Enough, I can’t find any logic in democracy.
Moreover why should we drum about… O democracy will one day solve our problem, …. Sir with due respect… democracy is a type of business where businessmen come and invest…. like Zardari … definitely if someone has invested in Crores then why should not he expect a return? Lets be little logical here… Why would Richest people invest Crores for free (i.e., no return)… in fact in return they will do service for country (its like a joke for me if we expect this)…. I absolutely find no logic in such claim.
Only Caliphate is our way forward.
mushraf bhi akher insan hai wo koi frishta nahi jo ghalti na kerta…….. or rahi khahish kusi ki to wo khod chor k gea hai ok
SALAM guys…musharraf waz gd leader but he commented wrong doing as he can bcouz he iz also human…..thn i think all will b fine if there will be bloody INQILAAB against system and against all these political parties…. we take pakistan in the name of ISLAM…and we prayed to ALLAH that we will make it true islamic state to show world dat dis iz ISLAM…that’s y we got that state and this waz not less than any miracle…..but after that we forget that promise to ALLAH…..then there iz AZAB for these kind of nations….there r three kinds of azaabs for such type of nation……1 is from sky….2 iz fm earth as earthquakes and 3..the most serious iz nafaq…which means all peoples of nation are divided in some groups and they fight against each other……..this all i m telling according to quran……and we r now in condition 3 of azab…….we have to say sorry to ALLAH and we have to change all this system….only islamic system…as JInnah and iqbal wanted…….any comments are most welcomed……..take care and just pray…ALLAH HAFIZ
Asslam O Alikum
May Musharaf Sahib say tamam tr nafrat kay bawajood onki ek term grass root level say mutafiq hon, masla hukumrano ka nahi awam ka hay, hr shakhs apni zaat ko qanoon say mubara or baki sb ko paband daikna chahta hay, or jb tk halat ki aag say hmm awam pk kr kundan nahi banay gay. hukumran hamaray esay hi hon gay. kionkay wo hm may si hotay hain.
wasalam
مجھے اس منطق سے اتفاق نہیں۔ پاکستان فوجی ادوار میں خوشحال ضرور رہا لیکن اسکی وجہ بیرونی امداد تھی۔ ایوب، ضیا، مشرف تینوں کو قسمت سے ایسے حالات ملے جن میں انھین مغربی دنیا کی بے تحاشا مدد ملی۔ اس میں انکا کوئی کمال نہیں تھا۔
a.a. mjhe khushi hai k koi aur bhi mera tarha soochta hai is ka kash hamarey hukamrano ko ALLAH hadayat de AMEEN. aur wo bhe awam ka khayal karain
Great site. A lot of useful information here. I’m sending it to some friends!
Javed bhai aap k kalum parh kr hosla milta he sirf mujhe nahi balka har woh shakhs jo aap ko parhta he ALLAH ap ko salamat rakhe with all Muslims.
Asalam o alikum dosto Ye mul k hamara he aur is ko hm ne sanwarna he america ya koi aur a kr nahi sanware ga Pakistan ko mehnati aur emandar logon ki zarorat he aap Ye mat sochien k aur log to behti ganga men hath dho rahe hen aur men mehroom hon balka apne hissay ki zima dari ko batareeq.e. Ahsan ada krien aur dosroon ko bhi is ka ahsas dilain agar hm dosroon ko is se baaz na rakh sakien to kam se kam apne aap par to lago kr sakte hen Pakistan zinda baad wasalam.